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Always enjoy getting to chat with @swyx on our annual cross-episode with @latentspacepod on the state of AI. We hit on what’s shifted, what surprised us and what’s next. We covered: ▪️ Whether AI infrastructure has finally stabilized ▪️ Implications of agents buying developer tools ▪️ The AI coding wars ▪️ The foundation model vibe shift ▪️ Why Swyx reversed his view on open models ▪️ When to train your own model ▪️ What's top of mind for the best AI engineers YouTube: https://t.co/dexj1uMtgI Spotify: https://t.co/9qoyR7IF5k Apple: https://t.co/w7UEHotnwa 0:00 Intro 1:17 What the Top AI Engineers Are Thinking About 2:13 Has AI Infra Finally Stabilized? 6:39 When Does Doing RL In-House Make Sense? 11:26 Why Selling Dev Tools to Agents is Different 17:18 AI Coding Wars 29:04 Consumer AI Plateau 30:22 Codex vs Claude Code 44:52 Future of Open Models